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welcometothedeepdive
todayweredivingintouhwatermargin
notjustanywatermarginthoughwelookingatexcerptsyouspecificallychosefromthepreficeandopeningchapteroftheseventyonechaptereditioneditedbyjishhingington
yeah
thisversionisfascinate
becausewelljinshingingtonwasntjustaneditor
hewasAAuhaliteraryscholarwrestlingwiththetextideas
youknowhiscommentaryasawholeotherlayertothestory
okay
sobeforewegettocontaryletssetthescene
thetitle
itselfwatermarginimeansnotjustarandomchoice
right
whatsthesignificancetherewatermarginreferstoamarshland
aplaceontheedge
societywereoutlawstogether
hthisimmediatelysetsthestageforthe
forthenovelcentralthemerebellionagainstcorruptauthority
rightfromtheprefestjunchhingtonraisesthequestionofwhetherthehundrednidoutlawswererealhistoricalfiguresorcreationsoffokler
umbluringthelinesbetweenhistoryandfition
yeah
thatblurringissocommoninhistoricalfiction
butimguessing
itwasespeciallytrickyforjishhankcanyouknow
giventhetimeperiod
hewaswritinginabsolutelyhewaslivinginatime
whenconfutionismwasthedominantideology
emphasizingloyaltytotheemperor
itupholdingsocialorder
buthereheiswritingaboutuhabandofoutlawsrebellingagainsttheverysystem
confusiismsupported
sohowdidhereconcilehisadmirationfortheseoutlovewiththeprevailingconfusionbelievesthatseemslikeuhquitethetightropetowalk
hedoesntverycleverlybydrawingparallelsbetweentheoutlawsandrevewredfiguresfromancientchinesehistory
forexample
hecomparesthemtoboyeeandtigonindividualsknownfortheirintegrity
whochosetofleakrurutrulersratherthancompromisetheirmoralsbyairliningtheoutlawswiththeserespectedfigures
ginchingtonattemptstojustifytheirrebellion
withinthecontextofconfusiism
itsoundslikehesayinglookeveninancienttimes
theresituationsweregoingagainstauthoriitywasmorallyrightthingtodo
exactly
andthisdilemmajinshhingtontonfacewasntjustyouknowpersonal
itreflectsabroadertensioninchinesesocietybetweenupholdingtraditionandembracingchangeit
itraisesquestionsaboutindividualmorality
versus
societalexpectations
whicharestillrelevant
todayithinkthats
whatmakesdivingintotheseclassictext
sofascinatingtheygraplelewithtitimelesshumanstrugglesthatwerestillfiguringoutcenturieslaterabsolutely是nowgoingbeyondcommentary
anotherthingthatstruckmewashowjishhingtonusesthisliterarytechniquecalleswedgetointroducecharactersandplotelements
okayiadmitwhenifirstsawwage
ithoughtwhatsigottodowithliteraturecanyou
canyouexplainthatabitfurtherimagineawagebeingusedtosplitsomethingopenrightstartsmallandgraduallywidenesthegap
jinshanancanusesthismetaphortodescribehowweintroduduceaseeminglyunrelatedeventsthatsuddenlybuilduptosomethingsignificantinsteadofdirectlysayingthesehundredandeightoutlawsaregoingtorebelthestoryunfoldsthroughachainreactionofevents
sogivemeanexamplefromtheexcerpt
howdoesthisuhthiswedgetechniqueactuallyplayout
wellitstartswithaplagueoutbreak
thisseeminglyrandomeventforcestheemperortosumonousallestialmastertoperformrituallstoappeasetheheavens
对 嗯
butaswereadthisritualinadvertentlyendsupunleashingtheoneundertainedoutlaws
ohwow
soitslikeeacheventsetsthestageforthenextoneleadingtothismajorturningpoint
itsreallysudtledbuteffective
icanseehowthatwouldbuildsuspenceanddrawthereaderinexactly
andthewedgeisntjustaclevertoolforwatermarginitsatechniethatsbeenusedinliteratureforcenturies
thinkabouthowmysterynovelslowlyrevealclues
orhowabackstorygraduallyunfoldstorevealacharactersmotivations
但是
jinjhingtonwasamasterofusingthistechniquetoadddebththingcomplexitytoastorytellingyeah
itmakesyouappreciatetheartistrybehindthestory
howwell
theseseeminglysmalldetailsarecarefullycraftedtohavealargerimpact
absolutelythespeakingofimpactfuldetails
ginshhingingtonusesfourshadowingandsymbolismtocreateasenseofimpendingchaos
thehallofsubdoingdemonsforexampleisthisheavilyguardedsealedchamber
imeantheimagaryitselfisprettyloadedwhenyousayoh
forsure
itslikethatphrasehpandororsbox
youjustknowsomethingbad
itsgoingtohappen
whenthatsealisbroken
andthentheresthatinscriptiononthestonetablet
whichisawholeotherlayerforshadowing
right
thedescriptionreadstobeopenedbysomeonenamehong
itsuhprettyclearforshadowing
especiallyconsideringwehavethischaracterhongtaiiiwaythearrogantimperialonvoywhoofcoursearrogtlyassumestheinscriptionisreferringtohimandblundersintoopeningthechamber
itslikewatchingatrainrecackonslowmotion
youknowitsgoingtobebad
butyoucantlookaway
thats
thebrillianceofjenchingconsattireheuseshongtaiwayssarroganceandnaivitytocriticizethoseinpower
whoblbldeddedtheirtheirselfselfimportance
anditcreatesuchastartcontrastwiththesolestialmaster
whoisportrayed
iswisecautiouswarningagainstopenthechamber
okay
butholdonwhyisthechambersealedinthefirstplace
whatssodangerousaboutitwellthats
whatwegettotheheartofthestory
thehundredandeightoutlasstheyrerefertosdedemonstrappedwithinthechamberwaitingtobeunleasedupontheworld
holdupdemons
butwewerejusttalkingabouthowjishshhingtonwastryingtojustifytheirrebellion
portrayingthemasheroesinaway
whycallthemdemonsthemahthatswherethecomplexityofwatermarginandginshhingtononsinterpretationofitcomesinitchallengesourassumptionsaboutwhoarethegoodguysandbadguys
especially
whenwebringtowecossmogyintothepicture
okayimintriguedtellmemoreaboutthis
thistowestperspectivetowesmusedtheuniverseasaconstantinterplayofopposingforces
yannandyoung
theseforcesesarentseenaspurelygoodorevil
theircomplementaryeachnecessaryforbalance
soyouresayingeventhesedemonswhorepresentchaosanddisruption
mighthaveannecessaryroletoplayinthegrandschemeofthings
exactly
andthatswherethestorygetsreallyinterestingistherereleaseagoodthingorabadthing
嗯
aretheytrulyincontroloftheirdestiny
oraretheymerelypondsinalargercosmicgame
thosearesomeheavyquestionsandimguessingwillbeexploringthosefurtheraswedivedeeperintothestory
butbeforewemoveontothosehundredandeightoutlaws
theresoneelementfromtheexcerpt
thatimcuriousaboutthatblackcloudreleasedfromthechamber
whenhungtaiwayopensit
thatsnotjustarandomweatherevent
rightdefinitelynotitsapowerfulsymbolofthechaosandrebellion
thatsabouttobeunleashedginjangingonusesvividimagerytodescribethescene
wecanpracticallyfeelthedarknessandredasthatblackcloudingulfsthesky
itslikenatureitselfisreactingtothisdisturbanceinthebalance
haveafeelingthingsabouttogetveryinteresting
youcouldsaythatweveonlyjustscratchthesurfaceofthisepictail
butwiththesekeyelementsinmind
ithinkwerereadytomoveontotheheartofwater
marginthehundredandeightoutlawsthemselvesallrightsobuggleupeveryonebecauseinparttwoweredivingintotheindividualstoriesandmotivationsoftheselegendaryoutgures
wellseehowtheiruniquejourneysandinteractionscreatedtapeststory
perperononaryofdedelinger
theultimatelyrebellion
theweendedpartone
ontheedgeofaclifinger
thereleaseofthoseahundredandeight
eightoutlawstheyrecalleddemons
butimumimstillgrapplingwiththatlabel
especiallyconsideringhowjhnshanktonseemstobepresentingthemasheroesintheirown
righthowdothosetwoideasgoexistitsattentionthatrunsthroughoutthenovel
anditreallygetstotheheartofginshhantsinterpretationrememberwetalkaboutthetowestconceptofyandyyang
yeah those
thoseopposingforcesthatareactuallycomlimentary
exactlyitsnotaboutgood
simplivebleina
inasimplisticway
geninshanktonseemstobebeggestingted
thateventhosedisbeledisdemonssahthosedisrupttheestablishedordermightactuallybeagentsofnecessarychange
soarewecipbtoarerootefortheseoutlaws
theneventhoughtheyrecausingchaosandgoingagainsttheemperor
iknow
idontthinkitsaboutpickingsigns
whatimevenismorenuoncethanthatitchallengesustolookbeyondthoseeasylabelsofheroandvillainandfelder
thecomplexitiesoftheirmotivations
theiractionsandthecontextsareoperatingwithinthose
thinkingaboutthosetwoencounterershungtaiwwayhasbeforeopeningthechamber
thetigerandthesnakethosefeltverysymbolicalmostlikeforshadowingthetypesofoutlaws
wemightmeetabsolutelythetigerwithitsrawpowerandferositycoulddefinitelyrepresentthoseoutlawswhorelyonphysicalstrengthandarequickactandthesnakewithitscunningandsteffmightforshadow
thosewhoaremorestrategicpreferingdeceptionincalculatedmoves
andletsnotforgetthattheseencountershappentohungtaghwaywhorepresentstheveryauthority
theseoutlawsarerebellingagainstthats
thatsagreatpoint
itsalmostasifnatureitselfintheformofthesepowerfulanimalsisrisinguptochallengethecorruptionandimbalancewithinthehumanworldwhichmakesmethinkabouttheinscriptiononthechamber
theonethatsaystobeopenedbysomeonennamedhong
wasitjustcoincidence
thathunttaiwaywastheonetoopenit
orwasitdestiny
ahtheagelledquestionoffateversusfreewillwatermarginscertainlydoesntgiveaclecleansanswer
butitraisesthequestion
beautifullyright
ononehand
youhavetheconscription
thatseemstopredestinedhunmtaiwasroleinunleasingtheoutross
butontheotherhand
ithisownarroganceandchoicesthatleadhimtothatmoment
doyoudoyouthinkhecouldhavechosendifferentlycouldhehaveheatedthecelestiialmasters
warningsandleftthechambersealed
ihonestlydontknowitslikeevenifhehadtriedtoresistwouldfatehavefoundanotherwaytomakesurethatchamberwasopenisit
isitpossibletoescapeonesdestiny
thatsthe
thatstheintriguingthingabouthowgenchenktenwhavestheseideastogether
itsnotasimpleeithersituation
itsatapestryofindividualchoicesinteractingwithlargerforcesbeyondourcontrol
anditmakesmewonderabouttheceletialmaster
嗯
heseemstoacknowledgethatthereleaseoftheoutlawsisinevitable
almostlikeheacceptsitaspartofalargercosmicplan
thatssucha
suchakeypoint
heunderstandsthateventhoughwhatmightbringchaosthisdisruptioncouldalsobenecessarytorestorebalancetimayybetherebelionantitselfevenwithallthispotentialforviolenceinapevialisactuallyacorrectiveforce
itslikethesystemhasbecomesocorrupt
sooutofwac
thatsomethingdrassdichniquetohappeniswhobettertoshakethingsuponehundredandeightlargerthanlifefigures
whorepresentthefullspectrumofhumandesiresandfws
whichbringsusbacktothatnumber
ahundredandeightisthereanysignificancetothatnumber
specificallyiwaswonderingaboutthattooitseechenglikemorethanjustAHsurrandomnumberofaboutlaws
youreabsolutelyrightinchineseerorologyandcosmology
onehundredeightrepresentsthetotalityofearthlydesiresintemptations
itstiedtothecycleofreincarnationandthechallenges
wefaceinourhumanexistence
itstihundredeightoutlawsarentjustindividuals
theyembodiedsomethingmuchlarger
preciselytheyrepresentthefullspectrumofhumannature
thegoodinthebad
thenobleandtheselfishallmixtogether
itmakesmethinkofthoseclassicarchitypes
esthoughthetricster
thewarrior
thesage
weseethosepatternsrepeatedthroughouthistoryandacrosscultures
exactlyandthatswhatmakesthesecharacters
eventhoughthatoutmatheseoperatingoutsidethenormsofsocietysouniversallyrelaatabletheyremindus
thatweallhavethosedesiresandtemptationwithinusthoseinternalstrugglesbetweenwhatsrightandwhatwemightbetemptedtodo
butiftheseoutlawsrepresentthosedesiresandtemptations
doesthatmeantheirdestinetofail
aretheyfightingalosingbattleagainstffeitselfitsaquestionthatlingersersthroughoutwatermargin
aretheytrulyincontroloftheirdestiny
oraretheyplayingoutpredeterminedrolesinacosmictrauma
jinshanktondoesntgiveusthesetheanswers
butheinvitesustoconsiderthosequestions
aswejourneyalongsidethesecharacterssoivetalkedaboutrebellionfatesymbolism
itfeelslikeweveonlyjustscratchthesurfaceofthisepictaeewebutbutithinkwevemadeagoodfoundationforunderstandingwhatmakesthisparticularversionofwatermarginastoldbygeneshaningtonsounique
rightitsnotjustaretellingofanoldstory
headdssomuchdepthandcomplexitythroughhiscommentaryandhisinsightfulobservations
throughthecharactersandtheams
andisfocusonthoseliterarytechniqueslikethewedgeandtheuseofsysybolismsounieleatesthestoryretellingtoawholenewlevelspeakingofthosetechniquesletsgobacktothetigerandsnakecounters
theyweresovivid
soevovocative
itmakesmewonderwhatothersymboliccreaturesoreventsmightbewaitingforusaswemovevefurtherintothestorythatsagreatquestion
andit
itgetstotheheofwhatmakeswatermarginssocaptivatingitsastorythatkeepsyouguessing
keepsyouontheegviyourseawonderingwhattsgoingtohaveennext
andihaveafeeling
thatthoseembolicelementsarentyouonforentertainmenttheyreprobablyhinkinggetdeeperthemes
andmaybeevenforshadowingwhatstocomeforourhundredandeightoutlaws
exactlyjinchingingtonwasmmterterweavingtogethermultiplelayersofmeaningintohisstorytellingsowevelaidthegroundwork
weveexploredthecontextinthetheenmesnowimimreadytomeetthoselegendaryoutlaws
metooinpartthreewilldiveintotheheartofthestory
andmeetsomeofthesefascinatingfigures
eachonehastheirownuniquebackground
theirownreasonsforjoiningtherebellionandtheirindividualstorieswillhelpusunderstandthemotivationsandcomplexitiesofthisepicuprising
okaysowevebeentalkingaboutrebellionandfateandfreewill
butitfeelslikewevescratchchthesurfaceofofthisepictail
youknowwehave
butithinkwevelaidagoodfoundationforunderstandingwhatmakesthisparticularversionofwatermarginhastoldbyjenshanktownsouniqueitsright
itsnotjustaretellingofanoldstory
headdssomuchdepthandcomplexitythroughhiscommentary
andyouknowhisinsightfulobservationsonthecharactersandtheammes
yeah
andhesfocusonthoseliterarytechniqueslikethewedgeandtheuseofsymbolism
elevathestorytetellingtowholenewlelellspekingking
thosetechniquesletsuhletsgobacktothetigerandsnakeencounters
是的 对的
youknowtheyweresovivic
soavoccative
itmakesmewonderwhatothersymboliccreaturesoreventsmightbewaitingforus
aswemovefurtherintothestory
thatsa
thatsagreatquestion
anditgetstotheheart
andwhatmakeswatermarginsocaptivatingitsastorythatkeepsyouguttingsing
keepsyouontheedge
yourseatwonderingwhatsgoingtohappennext
andihaveafeeling
thatthosesymbolicelementsarentjustthereforentertainment
theyreprobablyhintingatdeeperthemesandyybebeevenforshadowingwhatstocomeforonehundredandeightoutlawsexactlygenshhingtonwasamasterofweavingtogethermultiplelayersofmeaningintohistorytellingsowevelaidthegroundwork
weveexploredthecontextinthethemes
nowuhnowimreadytomeetthoselegendaryoutlaws
metoointhispart
weregoingtodiveintotheheartofthestoryandmeetsomeofthesefascinatingfigures
eachonehastheirownuniquebackground
theirownreasonsforjoiningtherebellionandthoseindividualstorieswillhelpusunderstandthemotivationsandthecomplexitiesanduhthisepicuprisimeimpictuinglikethisgrandtapistryeachoutlawadifferentthread
eachwiththeirowncolorandtexture
butallwoventogethertocreatethisincrediblecomplexpictureofrebellion
thatsa
thatsabeautifulwaytoputitinasyoujourneythroughwatermarginpayattentiontoknowthejinshanktenbringsthoseindividualthreadstogether
umhowdotheirpersonalitiesclashhowdotheirstrengthweaknessescomlimenteachotheranduhandopenlyhowdotheirindividualchoicescontributetotheoverallarcoftherebellion
thishasbeensuchafascinatingdeepdive
wevegonefromknowthesymbolicmeaningofthetitletotheintricacesoftowestcosmologyallthewaytotheindividualmotivationsofthesehundredandeightoutlaws
itsreallyandiandhopethis
thisgiveyouadeeperappreciationforjishshhgtensmasterfulstorytellingandisencycleinterpretationofthisclassicpaildefinitelyhasforme
butbeforewewrapupiahiwanttoleaveourlistenerwithonefinalthoughtsomethingtoponderastheycontinueexploringwatermarginontheirown
iftherereleaseoftheseonehundredandeightoutlaws
theseembodimentsofhumandesiresinflawswasindeed
priorobdained
doesthatmeantheirrebellionwasinevitable
doesitdiminishtheirindividualstrugglesinsacrifices
ordoesitperhapsmaketheirstoryevenmoretragicknowingthattheymightbefightingagainstforcesbeyondtheircontrol
wow
thosearequestions
theygobeyondworld
worldwatermargin
youknowahtheymakeyouthinkaboutthenatureofrebellion
aboutfightingforwhatyoubelieveinevenwhentheauthersstkedagainstyouabsolutelyandperhapsisyoujourneyalongsidethesehundredmateoutlawswolldiscoveryourownanswerstothosequestions
thats
whatgreatnoteteenddone
thanksforjoiningusonthisdeemeddiveuntilnexttime
